However, the rear sight on the P365 featured horizontal serrations across the back, intended to minimize the reflection of direct sunlight. Caliber: 9mm The SIG SAUER P365 has been my #1 CCW recommendation for a couple years now, and the continued expansion of the P365 line just further locks that in. This is odd, in my opinion, because the 12-round magazines feature an arched, textured tail that blends well with the backstrap. Thank god you didn’t put a Romeo Zero on there. At the range, the P365 XL proved to be a very accurate pistol. This suggests that engineers could have designed a more comfortable baseplate for the 15-round mag. However, there’s just something about the XL’s trigger that makes it feel longer and interrupted as it is pressed. There are lots of different P365s floating around, and that certainly helps with the P365’s staying power. Additionally, we got the Coyote NRA edition P365 and a two-tone stainless model. The blueprinted and precisely machined action allows Springfield to offer the Model 2020 with .75" MOA accuracy guarantee. Barrel Length: 3.7 inches The P365 redefined what a concealed-carry pistol should be, now the new P365 XL is doing it again. It’s about the shortest a grip frame can possibly be while achieving an all-fingers-on, standard grip. First Look: Springfield Armory Model 2020 Waypoint Bolt-Action Rifle, .350 Legend Cartridge: Everything You Need to Know, SIONYX Aurora Night Vision Cameras Review, Rise Armament 1121XR Precision Rifle Review, Browning Citori 725 Trap Max Shotgun Review, Trijicon's New Specialized Reflex Optics (SRO), Surefire XSC Micro-Compact Pistol Light: First Look. Great website. It’s the length of the grip that prints for 95% of concealed carriers. A little help, please? Overall, the SIG Sauer P365 is a very pleasant, comfortable gun to shoot and feels like you’re shooting a gun much larger than it is which, again, makes it an excellent subcompact for shooters with less hand strength. XL is perfect size for me. My Shield RMS bolted straight on. Bottom line: they make me look like a better shooter than I really am. Not only is the P365 XL longer, it is also taller, with a grip extending .587 inch. Stupid. I know, and I love my Glock 27, but I want something smaller but with high capacity. Glock just submits to Anschluss and goes along with the crowd. As the name implies, the P365 XL is larger than the P365. This was done to keep the frame slim. Sig Sauer 365XL-9-COYXR3-NRA19. I also agree that the extra.5 inch barrel doesn’t affect conceal ability and slightly improves recoil! I’m happy. Sights: Optics-ready with X-RAY3 day/night sights The SIG magazine style is ultra-efficient and the P365 XL is an awesome way to take advantage of that mag design in a bigger gun. What confuses me about the P365XL is it is no longer a pocket gun and easily concealable. I’d love to see .40 variants of these styles. I used to struggle with an answer when someone would come up and ask if a particular handgun was a good choice for personal defense. Probably how we got the stupid windshield wiper control on the steering wheel and “push to start/stop” ignition on cars. Width Across Controls: 1.1 inches This would give you twice the capacity of the Glock 43, and nearly twice that of the capacity of the S&W Shield and Walther PPS M… Makes it tough to drop mags. Like its little brother, I had zero reliability issues with the XL. Not in Ca. But in a good way….lol…..unless you have little, tiny baby hands. The curved trigger on the standard P365 measured 2.61 inches. There’s tons of videos on YouTube about it. Subscriber Services. The Coyote NRA version looked pretty good when I saw them at the NRA show in Indy. ? Once they appeared on SIG Sauer’s webstore for $49, they became their own commodity. Yeah even HK has abandoned it for the 1913…. At the base of the grip, the standard P365 features a pair of notches at the side, which fit like a puzzle piece with the magazine’s baseplate as well as the optional angled baseplate and 12-­round extension. So far the gun has been very reliable after about 1,000 rounds or so, not one failure of any type. The P365 also has a factory 12 round magazine that extends the length of the gun overall just a hair. The arch of the backstrap and the contour of the triggerguard’s untextured undercut appear the same, but there’s more purchase area at the frontstrap due to the longer grip. The basepads on any of the P365 magazines can be changed to fill the void and improve the grip, but there’s no contour at the bottom of the 15-rounder. I say it’s always to be prepared for the worst and hope for the least but this world is a lot different than it was 50 years ago I’m 54 years old now I see how the world has changed since I was a kid we used to go to bed At night with the windows up in the doors unlocked no problems whatsoever don’t do that nowadays or you could not wake up !!!!! Not that it makes it bad; it makes it very good. This year’s summer release of the SIG Sauer P365 XL was the most anticipated launch since the first P365 debuted on the cover of our May 2018 issue. Which, to be clear, is a really good thing. It is now my daily carry and bedside companion. It’s the reverse of what the industry does. Just as fast as the G43 made the .380-­chambered G42 a cheap gun store trade-­in, the P365 stunted sales of the G43 once supply caught up with demand. There was no difference in the average velocity of 1,110 feet per second (fps). With the grip frame now extending below the base of your hand, SIG had room to flare the frame out a little and create a slight magazine well funnel. I’m sure of one thing: One of them is probably going to suit you well. I have a FNS 9C that my daddy bought him but he’s never shot a gun he’s afraid of them so he gave it to me and I still have not shot it yet. The 9mm rounds are there for scale. The P365 XL is no better or worse of a pistol than the standard model. The P365 XL is easier to shoot, in part, because there is almost 3 ounces of weight at the muzzle. So much so I consigned my shield and put that money towards a conversion kit for my p320sc to be a full size. I really liked the feel of this gun over the P365. Compared to the smaller original model, the XL’s sight radius is 0.7 inches longer. All Guns and Ammo subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. The P365 XL features a flared magazine well that’s funneled to gobble up either of the two supplied standard 12-round magazine or an optional 15-round magazine. SIG’s truly excellent X-RAY3 tritium sights come standard on the P365 XL. The slide will also accept a Shield RMSc ($400). The frame is also longer due to a new beavertail that breaks up the flush profile with the bottom of the slide as seen on the standard P365. Published 07/06/19. The Trijicon SRO is specifically designed for pistol use. Once they strike gold with a product, they continue to excavate the entire spectrum of that item’s concept to see if they can win any additional fence sitting customers who say “yes it’s nice, but if it only had [insert option here] I’d buy it”. It is 100 lumen, and is surprisingly small. Here’s a deeper analysis of the Sig P365XL vs the Sig P365. Like the Glock 43. Compared to the smaller original model, the XL’s sight radius is 0.7 inches longer. They make adaptors for those that just must have it. The SIG P365 is a striker-fired 9mm Striker fired semi-auto featuring a steel frame, XRAY3 Day/Night sights, a 10-round flush fit magazine, and black polymer grips. Former U.S. Navy SEAL Jeff Gonzales, president of Trident Concepts, joins G&A contributor Kimberly Heath-Chudwin to discuss guns, training and gear, including Blackhawk's TecGrip holster that can make pocket carry more successful. Kinda defeats the purpose. Extras were 20 bucks at CDNN until the Covid…now they’re 22. Also, if it was a 1913 rail it would have even less space to fit something, given the notch placement. Not that I have anything against optics but it’s funny how many people say you can’t conceal a full size pistol slap and optic on their pistol and make it taller than many full sized pistols. Excellent fit and finish are essential for an accurate firearm. The XL’s funneled magazine well does not. The P365 redefined what a concealed-carry pistol should be, now the new P365 XL is doing it again. In the last couple of months, I’ve put right around 2,500 rounds through the P365 XL with no malfunctions to date. The P365 measured 4.74 inches tall with the longer 12-­round magazine, and the P365 XL measured 5.35 inches with the optional 15-­round mag inserted. Sarah Y. Linda don’t have a boss standing over my shoulder and I make my own hours. This system manages recoil to run the P365’s shorter slide. I like the larger beavertail on the XL model but have never had an issue on the standard P365, so can’t say it actually brings much to the table for me. I am not the most skilled bullseye/target shooter (I much prefer to go FAST), but the gun is accurate enough for a small defensive tool. I personally own two box-­stock P365s, one with more than 3,000 rounds through it. Like the original, the P365 XL points well for me. ©2021 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The perfect balance of micro-compact concealability with full-size shootability the P365 XL packs 12 + 1 or available 15 + 1 capacity in a micro-compact, highly concealable size yet maintains the comfort and shootability of a full-size pistol. An extra half inch in grip length just doesn’t make or break the concealment factor. The mix of really nice sights, a crisp trigger, and controllable recoil is always a good one, and when combined with solid mechanical accuracy and reliability the P365 and P365 XL really shine on the range. Sig Sauer P365 XL NRA Edition 9mm Pistol 365XL-9-COYXR3-NRA19, Coyote Tan 15+1 3.7" Be the first to review this product FREE FFL Transfer when shipping to a Rural King store i Twitch? I’m looking at you Shield/2.0 Glock 43/X/48, LC9S, and practically every other gun in this category. A little vague and squishy for me. Barrel length doesn’t typically matter and adding height like where the dot is doesn’t usually either. I’ll leave it up to you whether flat or curved triggers are better, but larger hands might prefer the new flat trigger for the increased length of pull. The SIG Sauer P365 XL X-Series 9mm, is the newest member of the SIG P365 family. It was noteworthy that there were not the usual flyers that we experience when testing other pistols. empty. But i had to try one of the SA mags. Why a larger version, especially with a red dot sight. The P365 has similar capacity in a slimmer easier to conceal package. The recoil spring assembly in the shorter P365 is a compound part, meaning there are two progressive springs with one rod plunging inside an outer rod. TFB. Sucks but I see why they did it. The FN FNS-­9C, Ruger SR9c, Springfield Armory XD-­9 Mod.2 subcompact, Taurus G2C and Walther PPQ SC all offer magazines that match or offer greater capacity, but none are as slim as the P365 or P365 XL. The average group size was .75 MO… .oThe thinner grip makes it better for IWB carry. I do trust these pistols. glock 43x/48 is the true master race. The P365 redefined what a concealed-carry pistol should be, now the new P365 XL is doing it again. Hope it’s Glock. With iron sights, results averaged between 1.7 inches for the best five-shot groups fired from a bench at 25 yards to 2.2 inches. At the range, this resulted in felt recoil that was more manageable than the P365’s, which wasn’t bad either. In this Guns & Ammo TV segment, Gun Tech Editor Richard Nance and Pro-Shooter Jim Tarr discuss... CZ is celebrating the 45th anniversary of the CZ 75 in 2020 with another limited-edition CZ... At the heart of the rifle is the Model 2020 action which wish designed and built with very tight tolerances thanks to Springfield's technology-driven manufacturing capabilities The stainless steel action features an integral recoil lug, and pairs with a fluted bolt employing dual cocking cams and an enhanced extractor for high pressure loads. After carrying mine near daily since completing a straight-from-the-box 1,000 round test, I thought I’d take its big brother the P365 XL for a spin . SIG does have a small light for the 365. The tips below are very informative and anyone currently working from home or planning to in the future could use this website….? That’s what drives the automobile industry to modify proven designs every year and muck up the works with features the world didn’t really ask for. SIG Sauer came out with the P365 a few years back to provide a quality small pistol for carry purposes, and it has been a popular gun for that market. The P365 barrel measured 3.091 inches; The XL’s slide was .675-­inch longer than the P365’s. The SIG SAUER P365 is accurate. I (and I think many) always used the extended mag on my p365 because I just shot the full grip so much more confidently, and the xl grip is that same length and even more solid. You’ll also have room for a full firing grip, pinky finger included, with that flush-fit magazine base plate. tdiinva, I hear you, but didn’t lengthening the grip on the 43X make it bigger? Every round fired from the P365 XL seemed to hit its mark. I dunno. For being flat, the XL trigger actually has a longer length of pull from center at 2.7 inches. But the 365 XL offers extras, including a 3.7-inch barrel with longer sight radius, two 12-round-capacity flush-fit magazines, a straight, flat trigger, a beveled and flared magwell, as well as the standard metal X-RAY3 Day and Night Sights. Bitch? One is flush fitting and the other features a slight pinky extension. Two years ago SIG SAUER shook up the concealed carry market with the release of the P365. My own P365 has eaten every sort of ammo on the market over the course of 2,000-ish rounds and it has also never choked. Shop Sig Sauer P365 Nra 9Mm Pistol - Coyote Tan Pvd 7564038 at calranch.com C-A-L Ranch Find a C-A-L Ranch Store Near you. Why do people who photograph firearms (and other stuff too) don’t include something of known size so that one can get an idea of how large the object targeted is? Once SIG Sauer’s new RomeoZero red dot was installed and sighted in, the groups shrunk even more. Enjoy . My new EDC. From the factory there are multiple trigger options, multiple frame colors, multiple magazine lengths and different baseplates, lights, lasers, and more. Actually, this is pretty much all I’m capable of at 25 yards shooting standing, off-hand. SIG’s truly excellent X-RAY3 tritium sights come standard on the P365 XL. wild pitch? All images by Jeremy S. for TTAG unless otherwise indicated. . Quality. Thanks for the review Germy S. Good as always. Categories: Firearm Reviews, General, Product Reviews. That changes if i go to a SA 15 rounder. But they shoot the same. Still a great deal. This was a clever way for SIG Sauer to address any complaints about a short length of pull from large-­handed shooters without changing the dimensions of the trigger’s location on the frame. 1 star 2 stars 3 stars 4 stars 5 … Snitch? The P365 redefined what a concealed-carry pistol should be, now the new P365 XL is doing it again. It packs ten rounds and comes with two 10 round magazines. Or… a drive to AZ? The SIG P365 is a tinygun. Our P365 XL featured a barrel length of 3.695 inches, measured from the breech block’s hood to the muzzle. The P365 is too short for me to release a mag so 8 stayed with the 43 witha plus 1 that I can eject easier. Combining the extra weight out at the front of the slide with the longer grip and beavertail made shooting the P365 XL impressively controllable, regardless of a 9mm’s bullet weight and velocity. Style and Appearance  * * * *  I just got mine. But I have small hands. The P365’s 10 and extended 12-­round magazines, and the P365 XL’s standard 12 and optional 15-round magazines blur the lines between a single-­stack 9mm pistol and and a larger double-­stack subcompact. The SIG P365 and P365 XL are not necessarily competitors, but guns that compliment each other. The P365 instantly secured its place as the gold standard to which all other single-­ and double-­stack 9mms are compared. I’ll snap a few tomorrow and add them to the end of the review. Texturing surrounds both grip modules and will wear down with use. So you can bulk it up? SIG’s P365 has apparently been the #1 best selling handgun in the U.S. since shorty after it was introduced, and it’s easy to see why. I also like the weight of the 48 with 10rd mags in it. since the P365XL is as almost large as many .40 S&W compacts. Grip texture is the same as on the standard P365, and I wouldn’t change a thing about it. It isn’t huge, but it looks good, it aids magazine insertion a bit, and it’s a nice touch. . The rear sight is easily removed along with the blanking plate for owners who won’t be mounting an optic. A 1913 pic rail is wider than frame. Double-­stack pistols such as the Glock 26 (1.18 inches wide) and newer HK VP9 SK (1.31 inches wide) may be great pistols, but they tend to feel fat in the hand and are more of a challenge to conceal comfortably, which is what gave rise to the single-­stack subcompact market in the first place. The barrel on the Performance Center version of the Smith & Wesson M&P9 Shield EZ is ported to... Give a Gift   It is made to follow the lines of the gun and doesn’t make it any taller. Yes, it can and it is. This is one of the best carry guns ever made. Recently, I went to a local indoor range and shot roughly 1,100 rounds in a single session. For their capacity, the P365 and P365 XL have no competition in size and profile. As SIG continues to expand the P365 line with variants in different sizes, sight configurations, control options (i.e. Then, due to the popularity of the P365 there’s plenty of aftermarket support for things like threaded barrels, billet strikers, compensators, holsters, and other modifications and accessories (65+ listings at Brownells). Not sure how it works, but would an FFL transfer bypass CA’s bullshit? Maybe 1 % respond “I love it, but make it less useful” and then they do. Just the dimensions doesn’t help visualizing how large or small something is. Capacity: 12+1 rounds Sorry man. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Pocket carry, as a method of concealed carry for a defensive firearm, can be a practical option when done right. 0. The appeal of the original pistol is its small size. Push Start was becoming popular in foreign markets, USA made cars adopted it mainly due to GM’s ignition issues which caused deaths. The descendant comes in the form of the P365 XL, a striker-fired pistol that measures 6.6”-long by 4.8”-tall, with flush-fit 12-round magazine, and weighs in at less than 18 ozs. Your email address will not be published. It’s decently mechanically accurate, but more importantly it’s extremely accurate in practice. Because the P365 XL has a longer raceway for the slide to recoil against, it utilizes a single captured spring and guiderod assembly. Many people I know love their P365. Every manufacturer or product maker – in pretty much every industry – has a Marketing Dept, with a team or Executive that needs to continually prove he/she is still worth the payroll. It’s a rough texture, but not something that can be classified as aggressive; It’s a nice balance that also improves control of the gun. With similar proportions, this extension gives the XL a 5.6-­inch sight radius compared to the P365’s 4.85 inches. The 12-round mag fits flush and will function in a standard P365 — and so will the 15-round magazine! Since this is a concealed carry article about how this pistol crams so many more bullets compared to others, one would think they’d have something to compare it to in the photo. Height: 4.8 inches While a half inch certainly isn’t much, in the P365 it allows another two rounds of capacity to fit in its flush-fitting magazines. What do you think of the @SIG SAUER, Inc P365 XL in full FDE? (The standard P365 rear sight is dovetailed to the slide.) Sig Sauer P365 XL FDE NRA Edition. Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you’ll know that SIG SAUER has upped the ante in the concealed carry and self-defense world with their P365. If us CA folks didn’t have a handgun roster, this is the one I would choose to replace my S&W Shields and Glock 19. Despite fitting a double stack magazine in there, the grip is slim and sculpted and highly ergonomic. Required fields are marked *. The new P365 XL from Sig Sauer has created quite the buzz with its leaked coverage just months ago to the quick launch that came out of nowhere. I had some occurrences of the slide failing to go back to battery while shooting. This time last year (2017) I was opening a press release from SIG and being blown away reading about the new gun they named the P365. http://www.6.gp/a72sV. Both trigger pulls feel similar and average 6 pounds, 6 ounces on a Lyman digital trigger-pull gauge. I’ve done various types of shooting from accuracy testing to torture testing and honestly, the little gun has done well so far. The notch between the two X-­Ray3 rear sights measured .15-­inch, the same width as the front X-­Ray3 sight. I got my 48 before this came out and considered switching but just dont car the trigger. With a slightly extended beavertail and a longer slide, the XL is 0.8 inches longer overall and the barrel sports an extra 0.6 inches. Capacity of the XL is 12+1 rounds. At the range, the P365 XL proved to be a very accurate pistol. Overall Length: 6.6 inches The perfect balance of micro-compact concealability with full-size shootability the P365 XL packs 12 + 1 or available 15 + 1 capacity in a micro-compact, highly concealable size yet maintains the comfort and shootability of a full-size pistol. Now that Sig has exterminated the bugs, either model is a fantastic gun. Well, minus the straight trigger and more securely-perched pinky finger, of course. Full size, followed by compact followed by subcompact like G17, G19, G26. Ballistically, the longer slide of the XL offers no extra benefit, but when testing for accuracy with the X-­Ray3 sights and the same V-­Crown load, the average size of our 25-­yard five-­shot group was reduced to 1.78 inches with the XL compared to the 1.97 average of the standard P365.